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SILENCE IS A SOUND.

your exegesis of '46 days' almost has me wanting to listen to that particular version.

almost ;)

Heh - I like the IT version a lot, though it's as murky as all those long-ass summer 2003 jams. I love walking around at night listening to ambient Phish - it has the same effect on me as In a Silent Way, the long tracks from the On the Corner sessions box, or the boring-but-enveloping ambient-orchestral-drone project Stars of the Lid. The return to the home chords in that IT track really tingles my spine. But if you prefer the more discrete, crazy-idea-a-minute stuff from pre-1997, then there's no version of '46 Days' that measures up - though the best 2/03 material might.

hey! sendspace that tweezer from nassau, or anything else from '03 you think i need to hear. hard to find that stuff in a torrent...

do this....in memory of me. and i'll hook you up with the goods!

nervenvaun.

i found it all on phishows.com (was broken for a while, and can actually stream it here at work!).

had never listened to the nassau tweezer. my take:

the angry looseness of the opening is made further strange when the crowd ERUPTS a few minutes in. i have no idea why, i wasn't there, and there seems to be no record of it online. need to read more i guess. it sounds like the band is chopping wood, or thowing chairs on stage, all with a lax gravity that suggests "this might be the last song we ever play again." it's dangerous for sure, and i like it.

around 12 minutes in, triscuit stumbles across a three-chord progression that is SO UNLIKE phish that i sat up in my 1973 econoline office chair and apilled some iced coffee. it's like sludgy van halen, a muted math rock chording from hell. awesome!

from there i spaced out a little, or had a conference call, or something. when i paid attention again, trey was leading the ambient barrage with some prickly riffs, and it sounded concerned, not sloppy or wanton. it was really funny to be listening and at the exact moment remember what you said about waiting until some many minutes until the energy gets BEHIND the band, and that's exactly what i was hearing. fish starts doing these double time tonka trucks and trey picks it up like a three day cough. just like old times! great stuff, thought a llama was going to emerge.

dissolves a bit towards the end, but a top five tweezer no doubt.

anywho, i should give some of these other '03s a ride. definitely intrigued now. the shows i saw back then (gorge, cincinnati) were average at best.

Kevin -

Have a listen to the 6/24/04 DWD - the same gorgeous chiming chords pop up in mid-jam like some kind of recovered childhood memory. 03/04 was a weird time, and the best of it blows my mind. Definitely give IT a listen - the Tower Jam is some nastiness, and I'm a big fan of the Ya Mar, Chalkdust, 8/2 III(?) (the one w/Seven Below) and the long 8/3 tracks.

Your description of the shit is solid by the way. I'm right there with you.

Wax, I'm glad to have found this. (Matso, a very old friend, indicated to me you were one person who knew what you were talking about and could also articulate it). I just wrote a long comment today on Miner's 'Initial processing' post defending your general position, as I tend to agree with your assessments here and elsewhere.

But this is a curse I feel I've been privy to ever since I started trying to articulate my own informed and contextualized phish-thoughts sometime in the late nineties; most fans just don't want to get down and dirty and detailed and honest about things.

I like context, though. I like history because it makes listening more rewarding when good stuff happens. I was front row for the 2/26/03 show and it was magic, because I knew they were hitting a place they hadn't been to in a while, and I could see that knew it too. But most of the time, you're not only not in the front row; you're not at the show at all. So here's to having others to talk about it who really know what's going on.

Kevin, here's my take on the best of Phish 2.0: 2/03 is the strongest overall month, and it's worth hearing all of 2/26 and 2/28. I saw 4 shows on this tour, and these were the last two. I remember walking into the Worcester Centrum overhearing some people who were really excited about the show the previous night in Philly. It was an ok show, but nothing special, and I said to them "they have a lonnnnng way to go to get back to the glory days". I guess I was tempting fate walking into that venue saying that, because they went back there right away starting with the first YEM opener since 1989.

That YEM, the 15 minute Moma Dance, and the very hot Maze (and I'm not a Maze fan) to close make 2/26 I definitely worth hearing. Set II is right out Fall 97.

2/28/03 is often mentioned for the Destiny Unbound bustout, but yes, it's the Tweezer that's the real highlight, maybe my all time second-favourite to listen to now, behind the 12/6/97 Tweezer, which is resembles a lot in its tempo shift and crazy 'where did he get that idea' changes from Trey. The first set Bathtub and the Hood are also great too.

Actually, Bathtub Gin had a crazy run as jam-machine starting sometime in Summer 97 and never really looked back until sadly now. Fall 98 is a great year for Bathtub Gin, but so is February 2003. The 2/14 and 2/22 versions are both worth hearing.

If I recall, the 2/20 Tweezer is also pretty nice.

This post definitely makes me want to go back and given IT some more listens. With the exception of the Tower Jam, the Ghost and Day 1 set 1 I remember feeling a bit let down by it.

My other 2.0 highlights are definitely the SPAC 04 shows. People always reference 6/19 II, but the 4-song 6/20 II really does it for me, especially the Ghost->Twist. The segue into Twist is incredibly flawless, and the Twist jam is just a monster. Waves and Drowned from that first set are also worth a listen. Just stay away from Conventry!

Looking forward to more, Wally.

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